tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post2457352552681516396..comments2024-03-27T14:29:16.273+08:00Comments on nofearSingapore: Pink Dot- It is your Right, but is it Smart?nofearSingaporehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10292932144525733468noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-51010444560329428782009-05-21T01:31:13.203+08:002009-05-21T01:31:13.203+08:00The Push by a minority to get homosexuality accept...The Push by a minority to get homosexuality accepted is upsetting many.<br /><br />Argument such as man should love other man has been badly misinterpreted to mean man can express that love carnally to another of the same gender. Love for other man simply means man(humanity) should have kindness, care, sympathy and respect for all other fellow beings regardless of their genders.<br /><br />To Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-44448056418258095602009-05-19T08:58:00.000+08:002009-05-19T08:58:00.000+08:00Hi
I revised my position. Check out what I have w...Hi<br /><br />I revised my position. Check out <A HREF="http://kentridgecommon.com/?p=3330" REL="nofollow">what I have written</A>.Donaldson Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652017880504259238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-55614845097563445592009-05-17T23:41:00.000+08:002009-05-17T23:41:00.000+08:00Hi Fargoal and Chan,
Thanks so much for your heart...Hi Fargoal and Chan,<br />Thanks so much for your heartfelt expressions of support.<br />Please know that your inputs in my blog are always welcomed.<br />This is not to say that those who disagree with me are not. They are equally welcome so long as their points of views are honest and they desist from name calling and ad hominem attacks. Some of them are in this conversation thread and be they nofearSingaporehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10292932144525733468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-88193249322540814982009-05-17T23:19:00.000+08:002009-05-17T23:19:00.000+08:00Just to drop by to show appreciation for your hone...Just to drop by to show appreciation for your honest and unbiased views.<br /><br />Had seen too many biased and bigoted views around the forums.<br /><br />U are one of those who views humans for what they are, and that is remarkable to me.<br /><br />I can't articulate in English that well. Just here to express a simple and appreciative thanks as I can see your sincere and genuine concerns.channoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-9412901244633583512009-05-16T20:54:00.000+08:002009-05-16T20:54:00.000+08:00Dear Dr Huang
Just to let you know that I support...Dear Dr Huang<br /><br />Just to let you know that I support your views. It's ridiculous how people are labelled "moral cowards" or "bigots" just because we do not automatically support the pro-LGBT views. I hope those activist-minded folks realise how many people they alienate when they make such statements. But I wish them well anyway.<br /><br />RegardsFargoalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04989329451348414543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-74203090741572538292009-05-15T17:26:00.000+08:002009-05-15T17:26:00.000+08:00PZ:
I have been called names.
But to be called a “...PZ:<br />I have been called names.<br />But to be called a “moral coward” in my own blog really takes the cake.<br />Anyway, I have no wish to get into any “flaming war” with so-called “brave” people like yourself – who does not feel “brave” enough to even reveal his/her name.<br />If I can tolerate anti-gay religious extremists, I guess I should tolerate their opposing counterparts!nofearSingaporehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10292932144525733468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-9552588648896671132009-05-15T12:33:00.000+08:002009-05-15T12:33:00.000+08:00Sexists, racists and homophobes NEVER give ground ...Sexists, racists and homophobes NEVER give ground willingly. <br /><br />History has taught us that minority rights have been won through agitation. It has to be fought for. Where would Black rights be if Rosa Parks hadn't sat down and refused to move to the back of the bus?<br /><br />I guess she should have taken your advice. Just shut up and don't rock the boat. Martin Luther King shouldn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-15154720820537430782009-05-14T13:50:00.000+08:002009-05-14T13:50:00.000+08:00Hi Anonymous,
I wouldnt have any disagreement wit...Hi Anonymous,<br /><br />I wouldnt have any disagreement with you then.<br /><br />My problem with the CSE is not so much that it brought up some issues, but with the inherent bias it has. <br /><br />For starters, I believe we can promote tolerance of homosexuals without promoting anal sex.Jimmy Munhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927345822970412901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-56873766256392160362009-05-12T17:00:00.000+08:002009-05-12T17:00:00.000+08:00Hi NoFearS'pore n Anon:
Thanks for visiting my bl...Hi NoFearS'pore n Anon:<br /><br />Thanks for visiting my blog. Glad u folks like the food pix, altho most of my frens say I've a lousy fone camera and I take lousy pix. Nice that strangers appreciate them.<br /><br />Pink dot or polka dot: really, I find the arguments headache making, becos I belong to the group of S'poreans who only ask one all not to be too much "in yr face" abt anything. <br auntieluciahttp://singaporegirl.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-70455637994008010482009-05-11T21:52:00.000+08:002009-05-11T21:52:00.000+08:00PINK DOT is a gathering of people who support LGBT...PINK DOT is a gathering of people who support LGBT Singaporeans and their freedom to love the person they are attracted to.<br /><br />Participation is not limited to gay people. Every Singaporean can be part of it. And that is the whole point. Inclusiveness should not be practised with exceptions.<br /><br />If you look carefully through the two campaign videos making their rounds, you will brickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031398094464156333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-10316588427203553222009-05-11T18:50:00.000+08:002009-05-11T18:50:00.000+08:00Hi Anonymous 1:44 PM, May 11, 2009
The fundies su...Hi Anonymous 1:44 PM, May 11, 2009<br /><br />The fundies subscribe to circular logic. To get through their dense skull, one has to speak their kind of logic to them.Donaldson Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652017880504259238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-6084583744756332252009-05-11T17:47:00.000+08:002009-05-11T17:47:00.000+08:00I believe the Pinkdot event is just another way of...I believe the Pinkdot event is just another way of appealing to our conservative society to accept gays as normal people like you and me. What is exactly wrong with this, may I ask ? As to whether it is timely or not, it is besides the question. <br /><br />The critics will forever contend that the gays will push for their rights at the expense of the family unit. To me, this is just the Alan Wongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-24062261231863262772009-05-11T17:24:00.000+08:002009-05-11T17:24:00.000+08:00One more point to make - I am not from the Gay Lob...One more point to make - I am not from the Gay Lobby. I am from the Secular Lobby and do not welcome Religious Invasion into any space.<br /><br />Here's something by Dr Gwee Li Sui:<br /><br />http://kentridgecommon.com/?p=3114Donaldson Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652017880504259238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-10597070306093474122009-05-11T15:10:00.000+08:002009-05-11T15:10:00.000+08:00Hi Jimmy Mun,
For goodness sake, the Religious Ri...Hi Jimmy Mun,<br /><br />For goodness sake, <B>the Religious Right does not include liberal or moderate Christians.</B> It seems that you don't understand this label but I can forgive your ignorance. After all, all liberals like you and me are an inclusive crowd.<br /><br />The Religious Right refers to <B><I>religious fundamentalists</I></B> who not only <B><I>preach the strict adherence</I></B>Donaldson Tanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652017880504259238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-47060132532368903992009-05-11T13:45:00.000+08:002009-05-11T13:45:00.000+08:00Dear Dr Huang
Thank you for a measured and balanc...Dear Dr Huang<br /><br />Thank you for a measured and balanced views, which I find myself agreeing with. I believe you are acting in good faith in weighing in on this matter. It is useful advice for the pro-LGBT. Whether they want to take those views in is another matter. To each his/her own.<br /><br />Warm regardsFargoalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04989329451348414543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-67204205988108006802009-05-11T13:44:00.000+08:002009-05-11T13:44:00.000+08:00Oh, by the way, the reason why I didn't respond to...Oh, by the way, the reason why I didn't respond to what Donaldson wrote was because I don't quite understand what he wrote, especially that part, "There is no such thing as God of Love." Really catch no ball. If benevolence is what defines an idea of God, then he just put forward a paradox. Sorry bro, can't wrap my brain around that. <br /><br />BTW, example of gay porn in Ice Age is quite Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-32804717927736887272009-05-11T13:22:00.000+08:002009-05-11T13:22:00.000+08:00Hi Jimmy,
I'll just address your points in t...Hi Jimmy, <br /><br />I'll just address your points in turn for clarity. : )<br /><br />1) Yes, and I don't blame you for it. : ) I'm just saying that meaningful dialogue can better proceed once we demystify such labels. <br /><br />2) Again, there needs to be evidence of this 'underground movement' for claims such as these to be valid. As I've mentioned, it's unfair Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-48630669977037395232009-05-11T11:59:00.000+08:002009-05-11T11:59:00.000+08:001) I was following Dr Huang's lead on "Gay Lobby"....1) I was following Dr Huang's lead on "Gay Lobby".<br /><br />2) You are using a strawman argument. Just because you dont have the form and organisation of the Bible Fundamentalists (I reject them as Christians), does not mean there is no organised underground movement.<br /><br />3) Have you actually read through the CSE instructor's manual? Did you read the part that says some people derive Jimmy Munhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927345822970412901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-4396070626951018902009-05-11T11:06:00.000+08:002009-05-11T11:06:00.000+08:00Hi
Jimmy Mun:
Hi Jimmy,
Thanks for visiting.
All o...Hi<br />Jimmy Mun:<br />Hi Jimmy,<br />Thanks for visiting.<br />All of us have to decide what’s best for ourselves and our kids.<br />No one can do that for us.<br />On the other hand, the same goes for people who have different sexual orientations from ourselves.<br />I do not tell them what they should do (unless asked).<br /><br />anon: 2.08:<br /><br />Hi anon:<br />Thanks for your very nofearSingaporehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10292932144525733468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-60854856844797764792009-05-11T03:09:00.000+08:002009-05-11T03:09:00.000+08:00I count myself as a moderate liberal on the social...I count myself as a moderate liberal on the social front, and a moderate conservative in my personal practices.<br /><br />In the past, I am rather nonchalant about LGBT events. However, after the AWARE saga which exposed the Christian right's ambitions, I decided to be less apathetic and to support the diverse voices of the society. Thus, I am planning to go to the Pink Dot event, even though I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-24716457499315010532009-05-11T02:08:00.000+08:002009-05-11T02:08:00.000+08:00Hi Jimmy,
First of all, what do you define as 'Th...Hi Jimmy,<br /><br />First of all, what do you define as 'The Gay Lobby'? What is it, really? There's been mention of PLU, or People Like Us. It's been disallowed registration as a legitimate society by the Registrar of Societies. This makes recruitment close to impossible. Gay people don't want to come near it, because anything 'unlawful' in Singapore makes people scared. How, pray tell, has it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-44407443885728660402009-05-10T23:27:00.000+08:002009-05-10T23:27:00.000+08:00Hi anon 6.58:
Thanks for clarification & justi...Hi anon 6.58:<br />Thanks for clarification & justification about why Pink Dot should continue despite sensitivity of timing to conservatives.<br />None of your publicity materials in blogs or facebooks mention about IDAHO etc. <br />Anyway, many will construe this as "gloating". Whatever will be, will be.<br /><br />Auntielucia: honored by your visit. Like anon, I too love your nofearSingaporehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10292932144525733468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-40851974510972609372009-05-10T23:25:00.000+08:002009-05-10T23:25:00.000+08:00Hi Dr Huang,
thank you for your blog post. Your p...Hi Dr Huang,<br /><br />thank you for your blog post. Your position somewhat reflects my own. It's a horrible place to be stuck in the middle.<br /><br />The Gay Lobby and Christian-bashers took full advantage of the situation to come out of the woodwork, forcing neutral people like me to head towards the conservatives.<br /><br />As Donaldson Tan has shown, the Gay Lobby is just trading one formJimmy Munhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927345822970412901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-36216692391336564062009-05-10T22:49:00.000+08:002009-05-10T22:49:00.000+08:00@auntielucia
Yes, Icarus flew too close to the su...@auntielucia<br /><br />Yes, Icarus flew too close to the sun. It was hubris that did him in. <br /><br />But don't worry, we're not going to soar into the stratosphere. It's good enough if we even manage to get off the ground, considering how clipped our wings are. : )<br /><br />Thank you for that comment about letting the pink dot event go ahead. If only there were others who would abide by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29051014.post-87605465474100941462009-05-10T21:27:00.000+08:002009-05-10T21:27:00.000+08:00No Fear Singapore: I like yr even handed comment. ...No Fear Singapore: I like yr even handed comment. Let the Pink Dot go ahead; because don't 4get what happened to Icarius!<br /><br />"So why not me (or is it I)"<br /><br />It's "why not me" because "me" is the object... many people get it wrong and say stuff like "between u and I" when it shld be "between u and me"...auntieluciahttp://singaporegirl.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com